User Contributed - Making big $$$ with Links
Here is a contributed post by Tobsn. He’s the dude who made the Recommend-It plugin for me awhile back.
Making big $$$ with Links
Over the last few month I was testing out some of the big link selling sites. I wanted to know how much they pay you, in this case me, and how easy it is to get your links sold out.
First of all, I cut it down. I don’t like those freakin’ big postings like Eli does it, I like informations compressed into little pieces. so lets start.
At the beginning I want to reroute the German visitors to teliad.de. It’s big and it works good. The prices are not that high as on TextLinkAds but it works fine for German sites and just btw. I don’t like linklift. Don’t ask me why, i just don’t like them. rest of Europe: sorry nothing else tested. Any hints? Write it down in the comments!
My Test Sites
I tested this with two very simple sites. One is a poker blog with very good bought content like a terms glossary (”full house” etc.), descriptions about the most common types of poker and similar card games and of course a few news about poker 1:1 ripped from poker news sites. The site has around 50 very unique pages. PR4. The other site i want to sell out is a German dept consulting page. You can put you ZIP or city in the search field and you get back dept consulting offices near that point ordered by range. A nice geo search site, well indexed by Google, sorted by state and city. It also has some unique content pages like a glossary etc. We’re talking about something like 50,000 pages on that site. PR5.
Both sites are touched with sprinkles from Adsense and affiliate programs.
Lets get to the big players: LinkWorth vs. TextLinkAds
First, before we come to the highlight TLA, we’re talking a minute about linkworth.
The site looks nice, the features are getting better and the concept probably works. at the end, just not for my sites. I have them in linkworth for about four month and nothing. not one sell. not one single crappy 10 cents link.
Nothing. I played with the options, I did everything I could do but nobody wants a backlink on my sites. Probably it just happens to me and others making billions with 10 sites, I don’t know and at this point i don’t care
Because it doesn’t worked out for me.
Just while I was writing this someone wanted to place a link on my poker site. one link for $40. This probably saves linkworth from a bad rating. So i visited the “pending” links site to approve the link. On the next site after clicking approve next to the link, linkworth asked me that I have to choose how i build in the links. I selected the Wordpress plugin because its a Wordpress site and with a plugin I don’t have much to care about.
The Maintenance
After selecting the Wordpress plugin and getting the download link on the next site linkworth told me:
“www.somepokerdomain.pl Failed - Please trying again in 24 hrs” - and the link I had to approve was gone.
No love for linkworth. That’s all I have to say.
Now lets talk about TextLinkAds - Where you make the big money with crap.
TextLinksAds, yeah I like that sound. They send me so much money each month, it let Larry and Brin look like hobos.
Compared to my richness. seriously, they pay out very good.
In detail that means after the first month it doesn’t happens anything at all but from one day to another i sold out all 8 links and one RSS link on my poker blog in like a week and around 2 weeks for 6 links on the dept consulting page. 8 and 6 links are not sound like the big money. I thought. but i wasn’t aware of how much they get for a good, niche matching, unique content site backlink.
Lets Put It Into Numbers
poker - 9 links - $77
dept - 6 links - $72
That means one link on my dept page gets me $12 and one link on the poker site around $8.5.
I’m impressed. I’m sold out all my links, get nice money for doing nothing. literally nothing. The best conversion I think is the poker blog.
… and now comes the bluehat kung foo …
I just set up a wordpress blog on a nice poker.com domain, trackback spammed 83 visible backlinks on google, 84 on MSN and 528 visible backlinks shows the site explorer on yahoo.com. I don’t put any effort in it. I just scraped myself a small list of trackback urls and hit the ping button. costs me around 30 minutes.
Now Comes The Interesting Part
A) I figured out that many, many blogs blocking trackbacks with poker in the title and/or url. what meant i had to use some other similar words like “card games” or “casino”. So I’m not really good “ranked” on google with major keywords. Sure i got myself a PR4 domain in like two weeks (PR update was shortly after. HA!) but I’m only have good positions with loooong terms. That ends up in not much search engine traffic.
B) you don’t need niche relevant backlinks, probably they get you a slightly higher PR at the end but for now it just counts that you get many backlinks doesn’t care about the keyword you link because you don’t need the search engine traffic.
C) sites with a PR higher than 3 and a serps ruling niche are selling very good at TLA. $8.5 for a crappy backlink on a not really traffic making page, with a lousy PR is, i think, awesome.
That means, if you can get a good PR for a domain, themed for a big subject like poker or mortgage or loans or debts or whatever is overwhelmed by SEO optimized, backlink buying domains on every search engine, you can make nice money very fast.
Lets Take A Calculator
say we have 200 domains with the topic poker. on each we put up Wordpress, fill it with RSS news and also some bought
Content, build in the TextLinkAds for Wordpress plugin for links sidebar and the RSS feed links. Now we get a PR4 for every domain. somehow. magical.
we would earn with just 6 links in the sidebar, based on my $8.5 per link: $10,200
nice, for just setting up stupid domains, doesn’t care about your own backlinks as long as they get your site a high PR…
Just btw. If you need 30 minutes per weblog and work on it 8 hours per day you’ll need 12.5 days to set up 200 blogs. say you take a bit longer, take a month. after that month you could earn a few thousand dollars… with just keeping the PR of your weblogs stable and high as possible.
… and you know what? TLA keeps it real:
My Referral Link For Text Link Ads If You’re Interested In Signing Up Under Me.
(by Tobsn)
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And 6 month for PR recalculation.
update
about linkworth: i got an e-mail from the support because of my little “problem”:
Tobias, There is actually something wrong with that advertiser account. They have money in their account but the system is not letting them use it. We have a programmer working on this and I am sure they will repurchase the ads once it is corrected. Please be patient. Thanks, Mitzi “I CAN HAS BUCKS BUT NO LINKZ?”
still, no love for linkworth… …and about linklift: they rewritten all the crappy code in their system (also wordpress plugins etc.) and the affiliate system is better than before. (greets to mr. linklift herforder)
Wow this is a great comment
Thank you for taking the time and writing this for us
no mention of textlinkbrokers in here?
They sell in large packages such as 200 links across 150 subdomains with PR4-pr7. stuff like that. Many go for $500+/month.
Thanks for the post tobsn, this has opened up a really good discussion. Duplicable idea or not.
Another great comment by tobson
Thanks
the problem (or blessing) with most of these text link sites, is.. they do alexa really badly. Since alexa only takes 1st level domain into consideration, you are better off getting a crappy tripod or wordpress.com account. Gives you bob.wordpress.com or whatever, and that ranks alexa rank of 228
(sorry if this dupes, seems to not like my comment)
today happend two things with my testsites on TLA: NUMBER ONE
Text Link Ad Sold Tobias, We are excited to notify you we have sold a text link ad off NUMBER TWO
Text Link Ads, Inc just sent you money with PayPal.
Text Link Ads, Inc is a Verified buyer.
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Payment Details
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Amount: $190,36 USD
Subject: July TLA Publisher Payment … still nothing on linkworst… or any other site… but 14 euro on linklift
Find here the list of dates updates for PR:
Dropping the PR? Yeah, right I’ve heard that since years, Google is not going to drop it soon, it might change its algorithm to calculate the PR, but even then , the PR is representing the number and values of backlinks, so even if you have many crappy backlinks, you will get a nice PR. Remember that Google link: command only shows a sample of backlinks, so you can’t rely on that to know the importance of a website…
For the doubters - this does work.
For the folks that are going to try this here is a hint to get you off to a running start.
“expired domains”
Nuff Said
Matt
You never update your blog, do you really wanna see your great Blog hijacked?
I found 7 new Wordpress Vulns + I wrote a worm for that bitch and you are running 2.0.7 !?!?! –benjamin
I’m a big Linkworth fan, but I have to admit it took me quite a while to get some links sold and make some good money. Now I’m up to almost 2k a month. I like them because of that and also that they are a good company for the most part. I have exchanged emails with some of the management including the CEO. There are a few warts to be sure, but if you have good sites (PR, Alexa, and traffic) then you can sell links if they are priced right. On my biggest site, a directory about 3+ years old, PR4, 11k hand-edited listings, I have some links that pay $149 a month! What I do with all my sites is start out fairly low and get some links. $5 is $5 and better than nothing. Then when I get 3-4 links I start raising my prices, since I don’t want too many links swarming the page. The idea was to slow down the link requests, the effect was to start making much more per link. If I start losing links, I lower the price again. But the best thing about LinkWorth is that they only take 30% of the fees. Look at what others take and some are up to 50% of the “wholesale” price, which is a total ripoff IMO. If LinkWorth places links for you they do charge 50% (retail), but for some people that is worth it to have them spend the time on it.
LinkWorth.com baby, and I AM an affiliate who doesn’t mind using a non-affiliate link…
200 blogs…wow.
I guess there’s a better method to monetize them. Let’s say you have 200 blogs in one niche - why not to advertise your own sites and your own affiliate programs on their pages? let’s do some calculation - let’s each blog have 5 visitors a day. there are 1000 visitors a day in total. And all of that blogs are linking to target site which have a good position in serps (so let’s add 20-200 visitors more). let’s say you have some context gambling ads and ctr about 15%. 1200/10015=180 clicks a day. each gambling’s click is about $2-3. 180$2*30 days=$10800. and that’a a bad method of monetizing because the better way is to send visitors directly to gambling aff. programs - the total profit per user will be much-much greater than 2-3 bucks.
Constantly add the fresh content, dont’t wait for the PR update, get the new visitors to the new pages of your blog empire…and buy new BMW every year.
Sound good but the true is you should choose the less competitive niche than gambling and working with 200 blogs is as hard as hell. And sure later you can put on your blogs TLA
Can you give some more information about the backlink spamming please?
Above post was also mine, but I was having problems posting it, seems that only the quote got through. Thanks.
Well,some websites like these actually ask a lot of moolah form the webmasters.
So In a way This actually might just serve them right.
very useful post
thanks
I liked it ,very nice
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